In isoceles triangle ABC angle A=20, B=80, C=80.
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Problem
In isoceles triangle ABC angle A=20, B=80, C=80. Draw a line from C to side AB. Call this line CD and angle BCD=70. Draw a line from B to side AC. Call this line BE and angle CBE=60. Now draw line DE. What is angle CDE?
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1. Let K is a point on side AB (different from B) such that CK=CB.
2. Let L is a point on AC (different from C) such that KL=KC.
3. Let M is a point on AB (different from K) such that LM=LK.
Now I prove that M=D.
Triangle KCB is isosceles, angle CBK=80 => CKB=80 and BCK=20.
Triangle LKC is isosceles, angle LCK=80-20=60 => this triangle is
equilateral, LKC=CLK=60, LC=KL=KC.
Triangle KLM is isosceles, angle LKM = 180-80-60 = 40 => LMK=40 and MLK=100.
In triangle MLC angle L = 100+60=160 and LC=LM => LCM=LMC=10.
So, LCM=LCD (=80-70) and M in AB => M=D !
Consider LEDB. Angle ELD is equal to 180-160=20 degrees, i.e. = angle EBD.
So points L, B, D and E lies on one circumference !
(From DLE=20 and DAE=20 we have another proof that AD=LD = ... = BC !)
We get that angle EDL=EBL, DEB=DLB and so on.
Now find angle EDC:
EDC=LDC+LDE=10+LDE=10+LBE=10+(CBE-CBL)=70-CBL.
But triangle BCL is isosceles => CBL=(180-80)/2 = 50;
EDC=70-50=20.
Konstantin Knop,
St.Petersburg, Russia.
Additional material
[ Editor: further solutions from rec.puzzles, May 1996, when the
problem went round as "triangle puzzle" and "Another IQ test problem"
(said to have "at least 6 solutions", to be done by geometric
construction without trigonometry). ]
In article <4maaqu$h8s@mugca.cc.monash.edu.au>,
tim@mugca.cc.monash.edu.au says...
>From one of the many IQ tests on the net:
>
>Take an isosceles triangle ABC. Draw a line from C to a point on AB,
>call it D, so that BCD is 70 degrees and ACD is 10 degrees. Draw a
>line from B to a point on AC, call it E, so that CBE is 60 degrees
>and ABE is 20 degrees. What is the angle CDE ?
Let F be the intersection of AB with the line parallel to BC through E.
Let G be on the line through C and F with CG = CA (lengths equal) and
ACG = 20 degrees. Since the line through C and D perpendicularly
bisects AG, AD = GD. Since GAD = 60 degrees, triangle GAD is
equilateral - so, AD = AG. Since AG=BC, AD=BC.
Since EAB = ABE = 20 degrees, AE = BE. Let H be the intersection of
BE and CF. Then since triangles BCH and EFH are equilateral,
BE = BC + EF. Thus AF = AE = BE = BC + EF = AD + EF -> EF = DF. Since
DFE equals 80 degrees, FDE and DEF are both 50 degrees. Since FDC is
30 degrees, CDE must be 20 degrees.
-- Craig Gentry
There is only one *answer*, but there are several (6?) ways of getting
it. [...] It is 20 degrees. Show that AC * EC = DC * DC by computing
the lengths of these lines (OK, this uses both trigonometry and
algebra, which the original proposer asked me to avoid. However, I
have seen a long solution that is pure geometry.) So triangles ACD and
DCE are similar, and angle CDE = angle CAD = 20 degrees.
-- Barry Wolk <wolk@ccm.umanitoba.ca>
[ Editor: Craig Gentry reposted his solution in a slightly longer form,
and answered a question from Stan Hoffman <stanleyj@buffnet.net>: ]
>I mean why should CF = BC + EF ; the bases or the 2 triangles?
This is how we know CF = BC + EF:
Since BCH is equilateral, CH = BC. Since EFH is equilateral,
HF = EF. Using these 2 equations we get CF = CH + HF = BC + EF.
How did we know BCH and EFH were equilateral? Well, we knew from the
get-go that angle EBC is 60 degrees. It's easy to see that angle FCB
is also 60 degrees just by noticing symmetry (or if you wanted to make
a more formal proof, by proving that triangles FBC and EBC are
congruent to each other). Since these 2 angles are both 60 degrees,
triangle BCH is equilateral. We can prove that angles FEH and EFH are
both 60 degrees - making triangle EFH equilateral - by using the fact
that EF is parallel to BC.
-- Craig Gentry
[ Editor: Barry Wolk, on Gentry's solution: ]
That looks long, but it is actually quite a clever proof. Here is a
small improvement.
Erase all parts of that diagram that extend outside triangle ABC. So
the point G disappears, as does most of the first paragraph of that
solution.
Now H obviously lies on the bisector of angle A. Then look at the two
triangles ABH and BAD. They have the same angles, 10-20-150 in
degrees, so they are similar. They also have the side AB in common, so
they are congruent. Therefore, AD = BH.
Now proceed with the second paragraph of Craig Gentry's proof.
-- Barry Wolk <wolk@ccm.umanitoba.ca>
[ Editor: D lies on AB, so "triangle BAD" is degenerate; the triangle
with angles 20-10-150 is CAD (angle CAD = 20, ACD = 10), and it is
congruent to ABH because AC = AB, which gives AD = BH. ]
[ Editor: a wrong attempt, and its correction: ]
robson@LaBRI.U-Bordeaux.FR (Mike ROBSON) writes:
>DCE = 10 (subtraction)
>
>DBE = 20 (subtraction)
>
>B is the centre of the circumcircle of CED (angle subtended at centre
> = twice angle subtended at point of arc)
This is where your mistake occurred. The center of the circumcircle of
CED is *not* B. It is somewhere else on the circumcircle of BDE, or
more specifically on the circular arc from D to E through B, from all
of whose points (not just from B) the points D and E subtend an angle
of 20 degrees.
In other words, yes, if you have two points on a circle they subtend [Editor: word
missing in the original] twice the angle from the center as they do from another point on the
circle, but the implication does not always hold in the other
direction.
-- David A. Karr <karr@cs.cornell.edu>
[ Editor: a second version of the 20-degree triangle, posted in 1993 by
cta.larc@nasamail with a diagram that was not quoted. From the solution
below, D is on AB and E on AC, and the angle sought is BED. ]
Given: BAC = 20, ABC=ACB=80, BCD=50, and EBC=60.
I could swear I saw the 20-degree isoceles triangle here about three
years ago, but I couldn't find it in the archive either ...
Assumptions: x is the point where BE intersects DC.
y is the point where a line perpendicular
to BA intersects BE when drawn through D [...]
So angle ABE = 20, DYE = exterior angle of triangle BDY = 20 + 90 = 110
[skip the derivations of 12 or 13 other angles ...]
WALA : BED=180-DYE-EDY=30.
When did we figure out angle EDY?
Alternative solution:
1. Angle BDC = 50 = BCD, so triangle BCD is isoceles with BD = BC.
2. Place F on the line between A and C so angle FBC = 20.
3. Then triangle BCF is isoceles with BF = BC.
4. Angle FBE = 40 = angle FEB so triangle BEF is isoceles with FE = BF.
5. From 1. and 3., BD = BF, angle DBF = 60, triangle BDF is equilateral.
6. From 4. and 5., FE = FD, so angle DEF = angle EDF.
7. Angle DFE = 180 - BFD - BFC = 180 - 60 - 80 = 40.
8. Angle DEF = (180 - 40)/2 = 70.
9. Angle BED = 70 - 40 = 30.
-- David Karr <karr@cs.cornell.edu>
In article <2g7854INNl72@NEBULA.SYSTEMSZ.CS.YALE.EDU>, Rajiv Mirani
<mirani-rajiv@cs.yale.edu> writes:
>Draw a triangle ABC with angle ABC = angle ACB = 80 degrees. Draw a
>line BD meeting AC at D such that angle DBC = 50 degrees. Similarly
>draw a line CE meeting AB at E such that angle ECB = 60 degrees. Find
>angle DEC (preferably without using trigonometry).
This problem is a special case of a more general type. Triangles with
rational angles in the given places have been called Adventitious
triangles. I can probably dig up some references given time. Here's
another way of getting the answer:
Take G in CA so that CG = CE. Produce EG to H making GH = BC. Join
AH. Then angle AEH is easily seen to be 60 (all angles in degrees) and
AGH = 80.
AG = AC-CG = AC-CE = AC-AE = AB-AE = BE. So triangles AGH and ECB are
congruent. So angle AHG = angle ECB = 60. So triangle AHE is
equilateral. So EH = EG+GH = CG = CD+DG. Hence EG=DG. So angle GED =
50 and DEG = 30.
And here's another similar problem (from the 1916 [sic] Scholarship
Exam, Peterhouse and Sidney, Cambridge University):
On opposite sides of a base BC are described two triangles ABC, BCD
such that angle ABC = 30, angle ACB = 80, angle DBC=angle DCB = 50.
Show that if AD is drawn, angle DAC = 30 and find the other angles in
the figure.
Yet another is:
Take a quadrilateral ABCD with angles ABD=30, DBC=20, ADB=40 and
BDC=60. Join AC and find all the angles.
-- Tony Davie <ad@dcs.st-and.ac.uk>
[ Editor: another solution of the second version above (BCD = 50,
CBE = 60, find BED = 30), sent in 1995 in reply to a query to the
rec.puzzles oracle that asked for an exact proof "(ie no trig)". ]
I have reoriented the figure and provided some labels. I will not
attempt to draw diagonal lines using ASCII graphics; rather, I will
just indicate approximately where the points are and you will need to
draw the lines yourself.
We are given:
isosceles triangle ABC with AB = AC (1)
angle BAC = 20 degrees (2)
point D on AB with angle BCD = 50 degrees (3)
point E on AC with angle CBE = 60 degrees (4)
We are to find:
angle BED (in degrees).
A
*
* E
D *
B *--------------------------* C
By (1), the base angles ABC and ACB are equal. The third angle is
known by (2), and therefore the base angles satisfy
angle ABC = angle ACB = 80 degrees. (5)
Knowing two of the angles in triangle BCD by (3) and (5), we may deduce
that the third is
angle CDB = 50 degrees. (6)
From (3) and (6), triangle BCD is an isosceles triangle with
BC = BD. (7)
With B as a center and BC as a radius, draw an arc meeting AC at O.
Then
BC = BO (8)
and BCO is an isosceles triangle having base angles BCO = BOC. The
isosceles triangle ABC shares a base angle with BCO, and therefore the
two triangles are similar. This means the corresponding angles BAC and
CBO are equal, and by (2) this gives
angle CBO = 20 degrees. (9)
Consider triangle BOD. From (7) and (8) we know that
BD = BO, (10)
and we also know from (5) and (9) that
angle DBO = angle DBC - angle CBO
= angle ABC - angle CBO
= 80 degrees - 20 degrees
= 60 degrees. (11)
From (10) and (11) it follows that BOD is an equilateral triangle, and
therefore
OD = OB (12)
and
angle BOD = 60 degrees. (13)
By (12) we may draw a circle with center at O and passing through B and
D. Extend BO to meet the circle at F, forming a diameter BOF.
* E
D *
* F
* O
B *--------------------------* C
Consider triangle BCE. Knowing two of its angles from (4) and (5), we
may deduce that the third angle is
angle BEC = angle BEO = 40 degrees. (14)
From (4) and (9) we have
angle OBE = angle CBE - angle CBO
= 60 degrees - 20 degrees
= 40 degrees. (15)
By (14) and (15), triangle BOE is isosceles, with OB = OE, and
therefore E is on the circle BDF with OE a radius.
Draw FD. The angle BFD subtends the central angle BOD, and therefore
the angle at F is half the central angle, which by (13) is
angle BFD = 1/2 * angle BOD = 30 degrees. (16)
Finally, angles BED and BFD are two angles with their vertices on the
circle BDEF which subtend the same central angle, implying that
angle BED = angle BFD. (17)
From (16) and (17), we have angle BED = 30 degrees, as was required.
-- Dave Seaman <ags@seaman.cc.purdue.edu>