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What are some examples of idioms that include obsolete words?

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What are some examples of idioms that include obsolete words?
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These are called fossil expresions -- words that have dropped out of
common use but hang around in idioms.  Not all of them are separate
words, some are part of other words or have prefixes or suffixes
attached.  There are also words which have current meaning, but the
meaning in the idiom is unrelated to it.

idiom                   fossil          meaning of fossil
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swashbuckler                buckler                small shield
newfangled                fangled                siezed
rank and file                file                column
to and fro                fro                from
gormless                gorm                attention
hem and haw                haw                make the sound "haw"
hem and haw                hem                make the sound "hem"
hue and cry                hue                outcry
kit and kaboodle        kaboodle        collection
out of kilter                kilter                order
kith and kin                kith                friends
let or hindrance        let                hindrance
footpad                        pad                highwayman
pratfall                prat                buttocks
rank and file                rank                row
raring to go                raring                enthusiastic
ruthless                ruth                compassion
short shrift                shrift                confession
spick-and-span                span                chunk of wood
spick-and-span                spick                nail (spike)
swashbuckler                swash                bluster or stagger
bank teller                tell                to count

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[ Editor: from a 1995 thread "Single Purpose Words", on words said to
occur only in one fixed phrase. ]

In article <3l5sf9$kgo@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM>,
> beck, as in "beck and call".

        A "beck" is also running water, smaller than a stream but larger
than a creek.  I can think of at least one recent usage: the Archie Fisher
song "Witch of the West-mere Lands", which has the line

        Beck water cold and clear will never heal yuir wound;
        there's nane but the Witch o' the West-mere Lands
        can make thee hale and sound.

        Fisher is Scottish, but the song was covered by the American folksinger
Stan Rogers (as "Witch of the Westmoreland") and the line remained the same.

>> aback, as in "taken aback".

        A sail can be aback.  That is in fact the origin of the phrase, I've
heard: that misjudging the wind when tacking can result in the sails being
suddenly taken aback.

>> And can "spic" and "span" ever be used without each other?

        Well, not to mean "clean"; but spic is a racial slur, and a span
is the distance from the heel of the hand to the tip of the middle
finger.

-- Michael A Phipps <caius@titan.oit.umass.edu>

In article <3l5sf9$kgo@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM> positron@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM
(Jonathan Haas) writes:
>aback, as in "taken aback".

Sails can definitely be aback.  (One way they can get into this
condition is by being "taken aback," purportedly the origin of the
everyday phrase.  Another way is to be backed purposefully by the
boat's crew.)

>caboodle, as in "kit and caboodle".

I believe in Disney's 101 Dalmatians there is a line, "You couldn't get
'alf a dozen coats out o' the 'ole caboodle."

-- David A. Karr <karr@cs.cornell.edu>